Client-Focused Training Tips and More with Andrew Bogue


Episode 212: In this conversation, Phil Brown interviews Andrew Bogue, from Challenge Quest, about his love for training and teaching in the ropes course industry. Bogue shares his passion for sharing knowledge and helping others learn. He emphasizes the importance of allowing trainees to make mistakes and providing a supportive and fun training environment. Bogue also discusses the need for collaboration and the negative impact of ego in the training industry. He shares his opinion on cutaway rescues and expresses his dislike for butt belays. Bogue encourages trainers to normalize mistakes and shares personal experiences of learning from mistakes. He concludes by highlighting the importance of knowing why you do what you do in training.


Episode Takeaways:

  • Create a supportive and fun training environment that allows trainees to make mistakes and learn from them.
  • Collaborate with other trainers and organizations in the industry instead of viewing them as competitors.
  • Normalize mistakes and emphasize the importance of learning from them.
  • Know why you do what you do in training and focus on client needs rather than personal ego.

Additional Resources

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Deadline to Submit: February 9, 2024 


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All workshop sessions are 90 minutes. Email your proposal to with “2024 Symposium Presentation” in the subject line. Submission Deadline: February 9, 2024.